Archived discussion from 2006 &
2008
on nonprofits & governments programs rejecting staff per
social media activities
In 2006 and 2008, there was a terrific thread on an online
community that, unfortunately, disappeared when that community got
"upgraded." It took a while to find on archive.org, but I did! At:
https://web.archive.org/web/20090102103944/http://forums.techsoup.org/cs/forums/t/17173.aspx
The original subject for this discussion was rejecting a
volunteer per online activity/online profile, but it
grew into talking about employees and candidates for employment as
well.
Here's most of the thread. I took out some of the posts that
didn't really add to the conversation. I started the thread - I
was living in Bonn, Germany at the time, hence why the time tag,
from the USA Pacific Coast time zone, is so early in the morning.
Note: most of the links won't work anymore:
07-02-2006 4:17 AM
Peace Corps Online, an
independent news forum serving Returned Peace Corps Volunteers,
is reporting that the Peace Corps pulled an invitation for a
candidate for an assignment after officials read an article in
which he stated an opinion regarding government policy that they
felt could get him, and other volunteers he would serve with,
into trouble while on assignment. I want to reiterate that it
was not the particular opinion, one way or the other, but that
he offered an opinion *at all* about the government in a public
forum that caused his invitation to be pulled, given the nature
of the work he would be doing and the culture in the specific
country he was going to be sent to.
For volunteers: do you think it's appropriate for you to be
screened this way? Have you held back from writing a particular
something online because of a volunteering activity you are
doing or want to do?
For those who represent nonprofit organizations: have you
"googled" the names of candidates for your board of directors,
or candidates for certain other "high profile" volunteering
positions regarding the organization's advocacy, marketing,
fund-raising, work with clients, etc., to see what they might
have done/said online? Or have you ever checked to see what your
younger volunteers might be saying about your organization on
MySpace? Have you ever come across information that has made you
reconsider a candidate for a position, or lead to your
discovering negative information about your organization by a
current or former volunteer?
Myself: when working for a nonprofit organization, I have,
indeed, typed into Google the name of online volunteering
candidates who've made claims I want to check up on ("I was the
founder of such-and-such organization" or "I wrote an episode of
'The Simpsons'"). And if an online volunteer has told me he or
she has launched a web site or blog, I've always checked it out
and, so far, if they have chosen to comment on their
volunteering, it's been very positive (had I found something
negative, I guess I would have followed
my own
advice.... As a volunteer, I know that some organizations
have screened me online to verify my information. I do post
personal opinions to my own web site, on a segregated portion
that is obviously not associated with the "professional" part,
but I do indeed place limits on myself regarding what I say.
What about you, as a person who chooses volunteers, or, as a
volunteer yourself?
Jayne Cravens
I can say that in my experience as a consultant, I
not only Google potential clients to see if my goals and
integrity match with theirs, but when hiring someone either as a
volunteer or an employee, I would definitely Google a person and
have done so.
One particular potential client asked to meet with me a few
months ago. I had a connection with one of their board members
so my confidence was high in getting the assignment.
After Googling the staff that I was to interview with, I saw
some pretty horrible posts on one of the decision-maker's blog.
This person used personally offensive language to describe her
roommates, people living in her apartment complex, bashing
particular political officials and using abusive language to
describe social policy opinions.
I cancelled my appointment knowing that I could not
authentically work with this person nor subject myself to their
judgments regarding my job qualifications.
Lou Storiale Storiale Consulting Group, Inc.
http://www.storiale.com
As a followup to my original post, and per the latest
post, some further questions to prompt discussion:
- could you, as a volunteer manager at an organization, work
with a volunteer who you found out, per an online check,
engaged in personal activities regarding a political stand
that you find personally distasteful?
- could you, as a volunteer, work with a staff member at an
organization who, on his or her personal blog, expressed
political or social opinions you found personally
distasteful?
- for both groups: where do you draw the line in considering
a person's personal opinions and activities versus their
professional-based opinions and activities?
Jayne Cravens
I personally could work with someone with whom I felt
an aversion to their posted politics, if I felt they were someone
with whom I could talk.
I enjoy listening to people who've done research in an area that
is new to me. I also enjoy engaging in conversation with people
who have new information for me to digest.
I would be looking at their politics, not from the point of view
of whether or not they were acceptable, but from the point of view
of where they came from, and how open this person is to new
information, and to the people around him/her.
I would certainly be much more careful if I knew I were
interviewing someone with objectionable opinions than someone who
mirrored my own.
I have little patience with people who assume they know
everything, and that people who disagree with them are to be
ignored, or shut out, or even damaged in some way, and I certainly
would not want to be one those people.
I personally value diversity, and so have a immediate negative
response to what I read here about the Peace Corp Online action.
The organization that cannot tolerate some coloring outside their
lines are going to be very ingrown eventually.
Still I recognize that it isn't a black and white issue. There is
always a trade off between diversity versus the ability to focus
on a certain mission.
I think, as Margaret says, that what is most important is the
ability to communicate about the issues that are pertinent to the
job being done when on the job.
my 2 cents,
Sasha Daucus, www.FundRaiserSoftware.com
Trends in the hiring of paid staff often show up in
trends for selecting a volunteer, so in that spirit, I'm passing
on the following from
workforceonline.com,
which relates to the post that started off this thread:
Don't Network Like This: One in four employers use social
networking Web sites such as Facebook.com or MySpace.com to screen
out applicants based on the information they post there, according
to the Daily Illini at the University of Illinois
Urbana-Champaign. The article references a new survey conducted by
CareerBuilder.com that found that about 63 percent of employers
decided against hiring someone after seeing content the person had
posted online. Reasons "ranged from a candidate bad-mouthing a
previous employer to them posting information about drinking or
drugs to their having an unprofessional screen name."
Jayne Cravens
I'm old enough to remember the House UnAmerican Actitivity
Committee, in the 60's. A great subject for our high school
debating teams (Do they still have those, where students
research, and then debate the issues of the day, in front of an
audience?)
Anyway, one of the issues that came up most was a discussion of
what people had done twenty or thirty years previously, in the
30's,mostly.
Looks like this generation will have the same issues - only this
time it will be their adolescent cyberspace postings come back
to haunt them.
As an employer, I get way more candidates that I can cross my
eyes at, usually in the hundreds. The first cut is always to
look for reasons to screen someone out.
Margaret Bartley
I just heard this morning on Public Radio that there
are at least two services (no, didn't get the names...) that will
help people looking for jobs or otherwise have information they
want buried, get the job done.
They either contact the site(s) that has the information and ask
them to remove it, or create web content pages what will be found
better than the old content, and make the college drinking photos
much harder to find.
Christian_SEO
I saw that NPR article -- very informative.
I think that for most online volunteering and tech-related
volunteering, a nonprofit organization is probably not going to
research the online profile of a candidate, because most
volunteering opportunities do not involve a volunteer being a
spokesperson for or representative of the organization, working
with the organization's clients or the general public, or handling
confidential information.
But if you are going for an intensive volunteering experience,
like the Peace Corps, or you want a high profile volunteering
assignment, like moderating an online discussion group for a
nonprofit or being the media contact person, or the opportunity
you want might involve clients or the general public, your online
activities might be
looked into, and what is found could impact whether or not you are
chosen for such a volunteering assignment. So think about that
before you post that college drinking photo to MySpace.
As for the issue of free speech -- the reality is that some
volunteer positions require a person to be seen by clients and the
publlic as neutral or apolitical on some issues. So, if you don't
feel like you can hold back from firing off a letter to the editor
about an issue you hold near and dear, you need to be prepared for
certain volunteer positions to be closed to you. I think the
situation regarding the Peace Corps that starts this thread is an
example of that.
Jayne Cravens
01-04-2007
Continuing this thread...
In November 2006,
Workforce
Management Online posted an article called "
Caution
Advised When Using Social Networking Web Sites for Recruiting,
Background Checking." The story says that the danger lies in
the fact that, "by looking at the highly personal sites, employers
can inadvertently learn about matters such as candidates� age,
marital status, medical problems and plans to start a family...
these topics typically are off limits in job interviews because
they can be grounds for discrimination suits if people aren�t
hired."
The same hiring rules for paid employees don't apply to "hiring"
volunteers, but many volunteer recruiters adhere to these rules
anyway, out of a sense of ethics. And that includes not asking
volunteer candidates about their age, marital status, etc.
Jayne Cravens
11-26-2008
I want to revive this thread, per a recent CareerBuilder.com
survey that says employers are checking job applicants' profiles
on sites like Facebook, Brightfuse and LinkedIn. Twenty-two
percent of employers say they use social networking sites when
evaluating job candidates, and an additional 9 percent intend to
do the same soon. What about nonprofits, NGOs, charities, etc.
regarding volunteers -- do any of you type a new volunteer
applicant's name into Google.com and see what comes up? Have any
of you decided *not* to accept an applicant as an a volunteer
because of his or her online activities via an online social
networking site such as MySpace or FaceBook, or things he or she
has said on a blog or web site?
Jayne Cravens
When I was with a different organization, we recruited a number
of college students to serve as board members, advisory
committee members, and bloggers as they are our prime
constituency.
None of the positions were paid though there were other perks
(like travel and representing us at events and conferences, etc)
that most students were thrilled to do so the positions were
considered somewhat prestigious.
I had one student who was a guest blogger for our
organizational blog as well as on our student advisory committee
who put a profile photo on her Facebook page where she was
wearing a t-shirt that said, "I f**ked your dad" that caused
quite an uproar. Even though her page was her personal profile,
she had our official org blog feed into her page via RSS and
held official roles within our organization. We didn't "fire"
her so to speak but it did lead to a variety of conversations
about appropriately representing the organization externally.
If she hadn't already been involved with us and was applying to
be a volunteer, blogger, board member, or intern, I probably
would've not called her back after seeing her Facebook profile.
Becky W, Staff Writer for TechSoup
Great example! Thanks SO much for sharing.
I think if she hadn't had your official organization blog feed
into her personal page, I *might* not have had an issue. What do
others think?
Jayne Cravens
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